Frequently Asked Questions



Table of contents

Q01: Is it possible to have the complete Eiffel source code of SmartEiffel? 
Q02: Is it possible to use SmartEiffel for large/commercial applications? 
Q03: Is it possible to do incremental compilation with SmartEiffel? 
Q04: Is there a SmartEiffel mailing list? 
Q05: What is the semantics (meaning) of a manifest string? 
Q06: Is it difficult to switch from ISE to SmartEiffel? 
Q07: Is it possible to use the Boehm-Demers-Weiser garbage collector with SmartEiffel? 
Q08: Why don't you post more messages in newsgroups and/or mailing lists? 
Q09: Is there a mechanism to precompile libraries? 
Q10: How is SmartEiffel compiled? 
Q11: How do I keep informed about SmartEiffel? 
Q12:
 
What documentation is provided with SmartEiffel?
Where can I find Eiffel documentation?
 
Q13: How can I help ? 
Q14: Why don't you change this and add that?! It would be much better/cooler/whatever !
Q15: How to customize the Garbage Collector for a new architecture ?
Q16: What is SmallEiffel compared to SmartEiffel ?

Questions and answers

 
Q01: Is it possible to have the complete Eiffel source code of SmartEiffel
A01: Since it is the GNU Eiffel Compiler, the complete source code of SmartEiffel is of course in the distribution. The source code for additional libraries is also provided.
 
Q02: Is it possible to use SmartEiffel for large/commercial applications
A02: It is very possible to use SmartEiffel for a large application. An Eiffel compiler is a really big project and SmartEiffel itself is fully written in Eiffel. SmartEiffel is completely free and any private company can use SmartEiffel freely, and distribute (or sell) freely the products made with it. They do not have to pay royalties. Also note that only classes which are closely related to the compiler itself are under GPL (actually, only classes of directory SmartEiffel/tools are under GPL). Other classes are _not_ under GPL in order to let people completely free (i.e. all classes of SmartEiffel/lib). Always keep in mind that SmartEiffel doesn't come with any warranty (please read the COPYING file in the distribution). As explained in the header of non-GPL files, the only important thing is to kept the header unaltered when the corresponding source file is provided in your product. For extended support, donations as well as consulting, see here
 
Q03: Is it possible to do incremental compilation with SmartEiffel? 
A03: Because of the SmartEiffel type inference mechanism, SmartEiffel always produces all needed C files from scratch. As old C files are automatically saved, only modified C files are recompiled. See man/compile for details. 
 
Q04: Is there a SmartEiffel mailing list?
A04: Yes! SmartEiffel users and developpers can share their experiences and ideas by subscribing to the SmartEiffel official mailing list.
 
Q05: What is the semantics (meaning) of a manifest string
A05: Bertrand Meyer clearly explains the semantics of manifest strings in section 18.5 on page 653 (and previous sections for background) of Object-Oriented Software Construction (Second Edition). A manifest string expression (in declaration) is not a constant but a reference to a shared object. A variable initialized with a manifest string is equivalent to a once function, so the string may change! For example:

   Message: STRING is "abc"

is equivalent to

   Message: STRING is
     once
       !!Result.make (3)
       Result.append_character ('a')
       Result.append_character ('b')
       Result.append_character ('c')
     end

SmartEiffel implements manifest strings in this way.

Be aware that manifest string expression may be written in two ways:

   str := "abc"
This is the standard manifest string expression.

   str := once "abc"
This is the once manifest string expression.
In the first case, new string is allocated each time the line is executed. In the second case you've got a once result like in declaration described above, so the string may have changed. See man/compile_to_c for the flag -manifest_string_trace which help finding memory leaks from non-once manifest strings.
 
Q06: Is it difficult to switch from ISE to SmartEiffel
A06: If your original ISE software only uses simple types like INTEGER, STRING, ARRAY, BOOLEAN, CHARACTER and DOUBLE, it is usually very simple. It is a little bit difficult for simple input/output (used with predefined `io') because some features have different names. If your original software heavily relies on the EiffelBase library, it may be very difficult. For example, one must keep in mind that SmartEiffel.ARRAY inherit SmartEiffel.COLLECTION and that ISE library also have a class COLLECTION. By the way, subclasses of ISE.COLLECTION cannot be used. The ISE.LINKED_LIST can be used in conjunction with SmartEiffel.ARRAY because ISE.LINKED_LIST do not inherit ISE.COLLECTION (no clash). 
 
Q07: Is it possible to use the Boehm-Demers-Weiser garbage collector with SmartEiffel? 
A07: Yes.
You just have to disable the generation of the GC by SmartEiffel (option -no_gc) and replace it by the BDW library. Note that the BDW GC can be easily added because SmartEiffel only uses malloc/realloc/calloc.
You can download the BDW library from : 
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc 
How to integrate the Boehm-Demers-Weiser garbage collector with SmartEiffel (from a message of Dietmar Wolz) : 
  1. Make the gc.a file from the BDW package. Then move this gc.a file to /usr/lib/libgc.a.  
  2. Move gc.h the to working directory and add the following lines: 

  3. #define malloc(n) GC_malloc(n) 
    #define calloc(m,n) GC_malloc((m)*(n)) 
    #define realloc(p,n) GC_realloc((p),(n)) 
    #define free(p) GC_free(p) 
  4. instead of calling 

  5.     "compile -o executable -boost -O root" 
    now call  
        "compile -o executable -boost -O root -no_gc -lgc -include gc.h 
 
Q08: Why don't you post more messages in newsgroups and/or mailing lists?
A08: First, because we strongly believe that too much information kills information. Scientists call this "cognitive overload". :)
Second, because we don't have the time. It takes an awful amount of time to follow discussions, whichever their quality. We try to do that. But it's even more time-consuming to be part of them. So, we often have too choose betwen posting/mailing, and working directly on SmartEiffel. Since our mailboxes tend to overflood, we generally choose the latter :)
 
Q09: Is there a mechanism to precompile libraries?
A09: No, there is no such mechanism in SmartEiffel. But if you're concerned about compilation speed, don't worry, precomputed libraries are not the only way to be fast ! Just try SmartEiffel, and you'll see :)
 
Q10: How is SmartEiffel compiled?
A10: With Eiffel optimization options -boost and -no_gc. The garbage collector is indeed useless on the SmartEiffel commands: since SmartEiffel did not include a GC in its first versions, we were very careful about memory when we developped it.
With C compilation optimizations turned on (it depends on the C compiler used; we generally use GCC).
The resulting executables are stripped.
 
Q11: How do I keep well informed about SmartEiffel?
A11: The best way is to keep an eye on our web pages, more especially on the What's New? page and the History of Changes.
People who want detailed information may also decide to stay tuned to the SmartEiffel mailing-list or even look at the bug-tracking system.
 
Q12: What documentation is provided with SmartEiffel?
Where can I find Eiffel documentation?
A12: The documentation provided with SmartEiffel is a transcript of what you can find on the original SmartEiffel Web site, at http://SmartEiffel.loria.fr. It is related only to the use and internals of SmartEiffel (yes, we know we still have to improve it ;) ).
For information and documentation about the Eiffel language, check the links on our Internet resources page. Note that we are not aware of any complete Eiffel language manual freely available on the Web (yet?).
 
Q13: How can I help ?
A13: The best way to help SmartEiffel and its users is probably to pick up some area you're interested in, and develop with SmartEiffel your own library, application, tool, extension, etc., releasing it to other users.
To avoid duplicate efforts, we suggest you have a look to what other people are already doing around SmartEiffel and help them if something that's of interest to you is already under work. There are actually very good things in there, some we were not even aware of, when they were under development ! :)
You may have a look to the future plans and have a look into the bugs database (access via the bug report page on the SmartEiffel web site.
Finally, you may also consider funding the development of particular features you wouls like to have.
Another very good way to help us is to follow the bug report guidelines when you find some problem with SmartEiffel :))
 
Q14: Why don't you change this and add that?! It would be much better/cooler/whatever !
A14: People must understand that we can't always do everything. We simply can't. Because we don't have the time. Whether we like it or not, we also have other things to do than provide free stuff, modify our compiler and/or libraries to please everybody. We do as much as we can, but we don't do miracles, sorry.
Since SmartEiffel is free of charge and open-source, people who do need things we don't provide can always implement them and have them benefit everybody. A good way to do this is to start working on it, and ask other people (i.e. not the SmartEiffel team ;) ) to join and help. See the "How can I help ?" question.
Alternatively, someone or some company who does need us to implement something may always consider funding a bit the development of SmartEiffel... After all, we've even heard that some people were selling sofware and making a bit of money with it... ;)))
 
Q15: How to customize the Garbage Collector for a new architecture ?
A15: The install command is supposed to tune the GC automatically for you. Unfortunately, on some systems, this is not yet automatic. Here the way to fix your installation manually (hence to provide a patch for the install command itself).
The content of file SmartEiffel/sys/gc indicates the appropriate `mark_stack_and_registers' C function for your system. As an example, if the file SmartEiffel/sys/gc contains on the very first line the name linux.c, the file SmartEiffel/sys/gc_lib/linux.c is used to get the appropriate definition of the `mark_stack_and_registers' C function. This definition is automatically included in the generated C files (use the -verbose flag to check for the path of the selected gc_lib file).
If the very first line of the file SmartEiffel/sys/gc is NONE, the compiler will continue to emit a warning about GC configuration and will use the default SmartEiffel/sys/gc_lib/generic.c definition. To fix this, you have to select the appropriate file of the SmartEiffel/sys/gc_lib directory and update SmartEiffel/sys/gc accordingly.
In order to check the GC, you should be able to run all files of the SmartEiffel/misc/benchmarks/gc directory. If you don't find an appropriate file for your system in the SmartEiffel/sys/gc_lib directory, you should first check that the generic.c definition works. The generic.c file contains some more information to allow you to write your own new configuration.
 
Q16: What is SmallEiffel compared to SmartEiffel ?
A16: SmallEiffel is the former name of the SmartEiffel project. We changed because we thought the compiler had become smart enough ;) For a list of changes between the last version of SmallEiffel and the first one of SmartEiffel, have a look there.

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